(Home) Battery, location, size etc

I have had a Master ace surf for just over a year now and I know this must be a dumb question but where the hell is the battery ?? !!!

- (#3383) Ian Gamlin, 16 Jun 02

Under the floor behind the drivers seat and in front of the first row.lift carpert and unscrew plate to reveal battery.

- (#3386) Barry Thorogood, 16 Jun 02

Ian, directly opposite the side door, with the middle row of seats facing forward, enter the vehicle via side door, and go straight ahead, directly under the rear heater controls, there is a piece of carpet, lift it and there is a metal cover with a retaininf wingnut, undo this & there is the battery. HTH Regards Rob.

- (#3387) Rob Drinkwater, 16 Jun 02


Looks like I will have to invest in a new battery pretty soon . As I understand the usual battery for the 4wd 2.0 TD is a 90ah unit.
Will it be of any benefit to use a slightly larger batttery (110ah or larger) as we seem to have a few starting problems all of which seem to be down to the battery.

Steve

- (#6980) Steve Taylor, 2 Feb 03

Steve, If you have starting problems, then simply replacing your old batt. for a new larger capacity batt. will only delay your problem for a short while, also a larger Ah batt. will take longer to fully charge, so its possible it'll make your problem worse.
I would try to find out the cause of your poor starting problem, before buying a new battery. Is your Alternator working properly, Belt in good condition & tightened correctly? Are battery terminal connections clean, bright & tight? Are your starter motor, bendix drive & start solenoid all functioning correctly? Are all your injectors working as they should, have you changed your fuel filter lately? Are your glow plugs working? The things that I have listed would all contribute to poor starting if their was a problem with anyone of them, better to check out everything else first before spending £70-£80 for a decent battery, only to find your back to sqaure one.

HTH Regards, Tony.

- (#6981) Tony Lloyd-jones, 2 Feb 03

The battery connections are fine as is the alternator/ belt and starter. when the battery has been charged I have no problems starting the car, but on cold mornings when you turn the key it attempts to start for a second then refuses to turn over any more. Use a jump start and it starts fine which is why I wondered if the battery was on its way out and if it would be of any benefit to get a slightly larger battery.

Steve

- (#6982) Steve Taylor, 3 Feb 03

Steve, sounds like a starter or wiring problem rather than battery. Next time it refuses to start, note whether the the dash lights get dimmer or brighter- they should dim a little as when the starter is turning the engine over. If they dim even more when the engine stops turning, the battery may be suspect, but it could also be the starter or a loose main wire. If they brighten when the engine stops turning, it's more likely to be solenoid contacts or the feed from the ign. switch.

It's possible that your battery is on the way out, but any of the above issues will make it seem worse...

- (#6983) david miller, 3 Feb 03

Dave, I have in the last three weeks removed the starter and cleaned the solenoid contacts, I also added a thick wire directly to the solenoid so that in the event of problems i could use it from the glow plug relay to start the car but even connecting it directly to the battery the car refuses to turn over. I have noticed the rear fan runs when I initially start to turn the key, when this happens I know the car is going to refuse to start. I remember seeing a posting earlier describing this happening. Also we have a cat 2 imobiliser fitted, for some reason when we attempt to start the car it trys and then the imobiliser cuts in and has to be reset. Hope that all makes sense.

Thanks for the replys

Steve

- (#7040) Steve Taylor, 5 Feb 03


thanks for all the info can any one tell me whee the battery is townace 2l td 4wd 89 thanks jason

- (#10571) jason, 9 Sep 03 16:56

Are you serious? It's under the floor between the aircon intake and the seat behind the driver. Lift the mats and undo the wingnut holding down the cover. If it aint there then look for a solar panel on the roof :-)

- (#10572) Ian Dunse, 10 Sep 03 1:33

Come on Ian, don't take the pi**, if you didn't know, would you ever guess that Toyota would sling the battery there?

Regards Rob.

- (#10573) Rob Drinkwater, 10 Sep 03 10:41

thanks all dont mind people taking the pi** only had her for 2weeks love the car

- (#10574) jason, 10 Sep 03 16:01

Hi,
Can someone tell me where can I get a replacement battery for Toyota Estima Lucida 2.2 turble diesel
model
CXR11 . I have tried Halfords and kwik-fix but they don't have it. Thank you in advance.
Candy

- (#11128) Candy, 10 Oct 03 6:42

Any Toyota dealer should be able to help you, but you will pay main dealer prices. Your best bet is to find a small high street retailer. Down my way they're called Motorbitz, but any car accessory shop should carry a range of batteries to fit almost any vehicle. If they don't have once in stock, chances are they can get one same or next day delivery. The trick is to pay the bit extra if necessary and get them to fit it for you.
dave Bright

- (#11129) dave Bright, 10 Oct 03 7:26

When you say Half ords don't have it, do you mean they did not offer to get one, or that they don't do the Jap type with the charge indicator?
Any place should be able to supply correct amp and terminal type either off the shelf or next day.

- (#11130) Clive, 10 Oct 03 8:14

have a townace '91.need new battery.cant find the specification.I have a hand book (English) but it only tells me where it is.help please
Catherine
ps love reading all the comments on this site

- (#11731) Catherine, 13 Nov 03 12:57

Catherine. There is some advice in Ace Answers regarding suitable batteries for the Townace. However, if yours is a diesel you do need a heavy duty type of battery and it's rating should be 90 amp/hour. Even the Toyota dealers do not seem to stock much above 70 amp/hour but a visit to one of the better motor factors should help you to locate something suitable. Many batteries which might suit in terms of capacity, will not fit the battery "carrier", ie, the location for the battery under the floor. I fitted a heavy duty Exide, Code EX1017SE but, I had to modify the battery carrier in order to get it to fit.
Don't be fobbed off with a "low capacity" battery. With winter coming on, you need something which will be able to cope. Is there a Motor Electrical engineering company near you ? Yellow pages will help as you do need knowledgeable advice from experts and this advice is not always available at the "Exhaust, Tyre, Battery" type of establishment.

- (#11732) John Davis, 13 Nov 03 14:18