can anyone tell me if the oil pump on a town ace with 2ct engine can be removed with out takin the sump off. i have stripped everything off timing belt ect am doin water pump. the seals on crank an oil pump seem to be leakin but not badly will leave if have to strip sump off.

- (#12325) ron, 26 Jul 04 07:42

Nope. the sump has to come off to disconnect the pickup pipe. But that's just a standard lip-seal on the front of the pump- it can be replaced with the pump in-situ...

- (#12325) David Miller, 26 Jul 04 09:06

Thanks Dave if i undo the bolt holding the drive wheel the spindal wont fall inside the engine will it? how doe i get the seal out wiv a screw driver or something. Is it unusual for the pump to need replacing?

- (#12325) ron, 26 Jul 04 12:45

The oil pump and relief valve are in the same casting as the crankshaft oilseal so it should be possible to remove without lowering the sump. I had trouble obtaining the correct oil seal for mine but eventualy got a rotor kitpump from toyota No:T04151-64020 for £12.12. This kit contained both rotating parts plus the seal. A bargin! The oil suction pipe conetcts to the engine block so should not be a problem. You will of course have to remove the timming belt and crankshaft pulley.

- (#12325) Mark (Dover), 26 Jul 04 12:50

Sure about that, Mark? the manual is implicit about the need to remove the sump.

But either way, Ron, if you don't want the hassle of removing and then re- gasketing the pump body, there's no reason why you shouldn't do it in-situ. The shaft is captive, the only fun you might have is holding the pulley while you slacken the nut (retorque to 34lbft).
If a screwdriver won't winkle the seal out, pop a self- tapper or two through it...

- (#12325) David Miller, 27 Jul 04 01:24

Thanks David as you can tell from my other bulletin i am not havin much luck with the thing iv spent a fortune and the thing has not been on the road much at all i wish i had seen this site before i bought the beast. I am shocked that the mpg is so low i thought that i might get 35mpg an will test it when i get it back on the road.

- (#12325) RON, 27 Jul 04 06:59

i had a new head fitted on my 2.2td 1996 townace last year now my water in the radiator and drawback system bottle is black and thick like tar but i am loosing no water or oil and shes running like a dream any ideas as confused and quite worried as a novice townie owner as had too many bad reports on them.

- (#12325) adrian, 15 Aug 04 15:56